JAKE TAPPER (HOST): A woman major party presidential nominee is -- again, whatever you think of Hillary Clinton, remove that for a second -- it's a pretty huge moment in American politics. GLORIA BORGER: It's interesting because women of my generation sort of think "wow, we -- we never thought this day would come and here it is." In many ways, I think, like African-Americans thought about Barack Obama -- TAPPER: You never thought it would come?