@jbarker2160: sorry, I've lost track of what game we're playing. Are we talking about saying "twelve thousands of apples" as a pure synonym for "12000 apples" (in which case we should not be telling English-language learners that it's common modern usage), or are we trying to think of rare situations (such as apples being sold in 1000-packs, which personally I have never seen) where that ... More @Wikipedia
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